Episode 104 of the Dad’s Guide to Twins Podcast Show Notes
Listen as best-selling author Carol Tuttle discusses:
- How to raise your children based on their true natures
- Why traditional parenting methods might not be the best for your children
- The four different types of children you might have in your home
- Putting your children in situations where they DON’T need to be disciplined
- Why the collective personalities of your family might adversely affect one of your kids
- How the babies are acting in utero foreshadows what you’ll see after birth
- What signs your children give you that your parenting approach isn’t working
- Why your twins won’t have the same personalities
- Managing the relationship and role of grandparents
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Joe Rawlinson: Hi there, and welcome to the 104th episode of The Dad’s Guide to Twins podcast. This is Joe Rawlinson. As always, you can find me on the web at twindadpodcast.com where you’ll find much more information on having and raising twins along with the show notes and transcript for this and all previous podcast episodes. I invite you to take advantage of a deal that I’ve made with Audible where you can get a free audio book version of my first book, Dad’s Guide to Twins at freetwinbook.com. You can check that out, again, at freetwinbook.com.
Well, I hope you had a great Thanksgiving week and were able to enjoy the last episode of the podcast where I talked about forming an attitude of gratitude in your parenting regardless of where you are in the twin journey. If you missed that episode, go ahead and head back to twindadpodcast.com.
I’m excited to have on the show today a special guest, Carol Tuttle, who is a best-selling author, a grandmother of twins, and has developed a very interesting concept around child whispering. She’s written a book by the same name, The Child Whisperer, to help us as parents best identify the individual needs of our children and tailor our parenting to meet those needs to create better harmony in our home, so let’s jump right into the interview with Carol and listen for ways that you can tailor your parenting to your children’s individual needs.
Welcome to the show, Carol.
Carol Tuttle: Thank you. It’s good to be here.
Joe Rawlinson: Now, Carol has written a marvelous book that I think should be required reading for all parents, and that is The Child Whisperer: The Ultimate Handbook for Raising Happy, Successful, and Cooperative Children. We’re going to deep dive into some of the concepts in this book today. Now, Carol, in this book you highlight the importance of us as parents identifying the unique natures of our children. Can you talk a little bit about why it’s so important that we identify those natures?
Carol Tuttle: Yeah, thank you. I have found through my study as a parent educator and someone that’s worked in this field for many, many years of just the psychological aspect of what wounds us as human beings, and a lot of it is what I call accidental wounding that comes from our parents. In that, there is then, I think, the traditional parenting approach of a little bit of a hierarchical model of the parents who’re just obedience to the parents, parents know best, and it’s more about raising a child to be behaviorally responsible rather than to nurture a child true to who they are and help them develop, basically set them up, so I’ve kind of flipped my model from the traditional parenting model to say, you know, your child comes with instilled in them, what I’ve discovered, is every capacity for success as a human being. Being able to understand their true nature, their most innate inherent gifts that they express effortlessly and set them up to develop those, they will be successful and responsible and, in their childhood, cooperative human beings.
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It’s a very different parenting approach that allows you to be very intuitively guided by your children’s messages to you, and it actually makes parenting a lot of fun rather than an act of disciplinary processes to try and effect behavior. I say you don’t have to instill anything into a child. In your assessment and your understanding of their true nature, you can raise the child to live the truth that they came to be.
Joe Rawlinson: Yeah, that is a unique perspective because often it feels like we as parents default to what we observed our parents do and kind of may try a one-size-fits-all approach with our children.
Carol Tuttle: Right, right. I think that it’s more … I think what the one which I do talk about in The Child Whisperer, there are definitely developmental phases from birth to age 18 that are really critical in understanding, I feel, as a parent to understand what’s the priority of this developmental phase, but in helping your child successfully develop in that phase, that is different, according to what I refer to as their energy type or, in sense, their true nature, so understanding that about them helps you more successfully parent them through these phases of live.
So I’ve even chunked that out in the book to say depending on which of the four types your child leads with. The reference to types is really just a categorization that makes it easy to learn this because in the truth of what we’re looking at it’s their inherent nature. It’s something a child comes with, that nature precedes personality, that there is a human nature that expresses through us. So for teaching and learning purposes, it’s just a more practical approach, but it’s kind of fascinating to me when a child learns the parent’s awareness of this and they identify with it as being correct. The child doesn’t seem to have any issues around being referred to as a type one, a type two. They kind of feel endeared by it. They’re like … Because they understand that’s just a reference. It means so much more. It means my parents are understanding me. They’re seeing who I am.
Joe Rawlinson: That’s true. We’ve seen that with our girls. They know their type, and they’re excited to tell everybody else what their type is.
Carol Tuttle: Uh-huh (affirmative).
Joe Rawlinson: For them, and they want to identify what type other people are, as well.
Carol Tuttle: Yeah.
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Joe Rawlinson: It has helped change how we parent and recognizing some things that before were points of friction to now that’s really leveraging their strengths.
Carol Tuttle: Yeah, and your girls are how old? I know they’re grade school now?
Joe Rawlinson: Yeah. They’re seven now.
Carol Tuttle: Yeah, so they’re in the developmental phase of starting to develop their more sense of their outer world and their learning styles and just their ability to succeed and their whole educational process that, unfortunately, the traditional model doesn’t support all four types, but a parent could definitely … We have more choices than ever to help support a child in what engages their success, especially in their learning phases.
Joe Rawlinson: We’ve eluded to these types. Could you give an overview of what these four types are?
Carol Tuttle: Yeah, and I think people quickly default to personalities, so if you’ll reference that I’m talking about human nature that expresses first as a movement that develops into a personality that is congruent with this inner movement because this is a system that you can actually assess an infant. My children are all … Most of them are parents. I have five children. Three of the five are parents now, so I have eight grandchildren, and they’ve successfully with this model been able to assess even in utero their children’s types and know from the very origin of their lives that sort of preferences that need to be applied to create more successful outcomes, so it gives you such a huge advantage, so think of it as movement that even expresses before language.
Type one is an upward, light, buoyant movement, and I call that the fun-loving child. Their first and foremost connection with the world is a social connection. They have ability to connect and disconnect. They have high movement. The negative label often that’s projected onto them is that they’re hyperactive and ADHD, and their movement increases when they’re forced to quiet it down and particularly learning situations. They learn best with an element of movement and their experience. It was interesting I heard on the news recently of a school in our state district that’s implementing some movement, some features of movement where chairs that one leg’s a little shorter and it can rock, desks that go up and down, and I thought that was just so fabulous that they’re instilling this, they’re supporting children that need movement in their learning experience.
So these kids get told a lot settle down, settle down, and that’s a contrary message, so I’m not about … People at first glance can think I’m supporting let children run wild. Let them do whatever they want. I’m like no. That’s not guiding a child. That’s checking out. It’s noticing where that movement needs to be allowed, and then as a child grows and matures they have the capacity to learn appropriate sitting still behavioral skills in the correct settings. For example, you don’t take a high-movement child at three years old and make them sit through a sit-down dinner at a restaurant for an hour-and-a-half. See? You’re setting your child up to be disciplined because that’s not a setting that supports their age and their higher movement.
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Then type two is the sensitive child. They lead with a more downward-flowing inner movement. Where type one’s an extrovert energy of movement, type one is an introvert energy of movement. It’s calmer, it’s sensitive, it’s more subtle, has a calming effect. Now, these children have an emotional connection to the world. Everything gets processed through an emotional point of experience, and they are often told that they’re shy. That’s kind of the projection they get, that they’re timid, they’re shy. Now, I don’t speak to any of those labels. I actually speak to them only to correct them because in the world of a type two child, familiarity increases confidence and comfort, which allows them to move forward. For example, if they’re put in a setting without giving a chance to be familiar … I have a little type two grandson, and my daughter, who’s his mother, would drop him off at a childcare at the gym so she could exercise, and he would have an absolute fit. He was only two at the time, and we chatted about it. I said, “Jenny, he needs you to go in and be with him until he gets familiar with it so he can really be sensitive to this.” Nothing’s familiar. It feels threatening. She did that and progressed with it, and now he looks forward to it so that, again, it’s just a different approach to create a successful outcome.
Then type three is our determined child. These are the children that have a push forward, physical connection to the world. They are very hands-on learners. This is the child that kind of wakes up at about a year-and-a-half and goes there’s a big, wide world out there that I got to get my hands on. They’re the children that love a challenge, so it’s counterproductive to stay don’t, stop, you can’t because then their innate being it’s yes, I will, and I can, and I will push to override you. They often then get called they’re rebellious and defiant. Again, they have a movement that’s high-movement and extrovert movement but different than a type one. A type one is a very light, more bouncy, cheerful energy where the type three is more of a force, an intense, and a substantial movement and engaging with the world. They’re very capable of a lot more than they’re allowed to do, so it’s like setting up the space that they don’t have to … They get disciplined the most and they, I think, are the children that have created the terrible twos and threes reference. Their energy’s bigger than them. They kind of have to grow into it. Now, my daughter’s really, my oldest daughter’s done a wonderful thing for me. She’s created my own child whisperer laboratory. She has a type four, a type three, a type two, and a type one.
Joe Rawlinson: Nice.
Carol Tuttle: We’ve had many, many conversations about her parenting, their parenting approach. It’s been just a great learning experience. I joke with her. I say hey, I’m really either onto something or you say to your kids before we visit grandma thinks she’s onto this thing, so I need you all to act a certain way because they are textbook. I’m amazed how clearly they express these tendencies.
Then the type four is the more serious child. They have an intellectual connection to the world. Their movement is more rigid, more defined, more black and white. They process very deeply internally. They have a more private experience in the world, and they show this very quickly, and a parent will worry that they’re too serious. They need to lighten up. They’re told to lighten up. Parents worry they’re not social enough. Autism is shown in this. I’ve yet to see a child that’s diagnosed with autistic or Asperger’s that’s not a type four. They have very particular learning styles, and they may not speak until they can speak in full sentences. There’s a different learning style for them and a very keen awareness of everything going on around them that they’re processing internally that makes them seem less childlike to the parents. It’s interesting how many parents of type four children … I would say every parent has gotten great value of changing their perception, having more awareness but, interestingly, I heard succinctly from, steadily from a lot of parents of type four children that just feel like ah, my child’s okay. They’re going to seem very adult-like their whole life. They’re not the fun-loving child.
Joe Rawlinson: Yeah, we have a good mix in our family. We’ve got four kids and, although we don’t have one of each type in our family like your daughter, we have … our oldest son is the more serious child, the type four. Our next son is sensitive, type two. Our twins, one of them is the fun-loving, and another is the sensitive type.
Carol Tuttle: See, even in that, because even now you look at your wife’s profile, you create a quality of movement as a family group, so you have a predominance of what I call the lower movements and the more introvert movements, so your one daughter that’s the higher movement with the more extrovert energy, she could grow up feeling like the black sheep. I’m the odd person in the family. Nobody gets me. I don’t seem to fit here because everyone has these other preferences that align more readily.
Joe Rawlinson: Yeah, and we did … In fact, I mentioned earlier, until we recognized that was her nature, we were always trying to force her into something that was not the ideal situation, like you’re describing going to the restaurant for an hour-and-a-half or what have you.
Carol Tuttle: Right, because your other kids could probably handle that.
Joe Rawlinson: Right, so once we realized that is her outgoing, fun-loving nature, we were able to tailor her environment and her activities to better meet the need.
Carol Tuttle: Yeah. If she could move around and talk to every table, she’d probably have a good time for an hour-and-a-half.
Joe Rawlinson: That’s right.
Carol Tuttle: If you took her around to say hello to everybody, it’d work.
Joe Rawlinson: You’d mentioned earlier that you can even sense their nature while they’re still in utero, and we saw that with our girls for sure where our fun-loving child, she was the most active, always kicking, punching, movement, and her sister was very docile.
Carol Tuttle: You know, it was interesting, our son and his wife, my daughter-in-law, just have four-month-old twins, and Chris, my son, had actually found you online and was following as becoming a father of twins. It was really fun to meet your family knowing our family had already connected through what you’re doing. Our son’s story is a little bit unique in that my daughter-in-law was not able to carry the children. They had done IVF five times unsuccessfully, and from their last IVF cycle they had been able to have two sets of embryos that’d not been … Because if you understand anything about that process, they’re basically test tube babies and then they’re implanted. They made the choice, a very prayerful, very heartfelt choice over months of really wanting to be guided in what to do that they chose to go the route of a gestational carrier that would carry the embryos. They do implant two because it just increases the rate of success.
Well, Kara, who was the carrier, she was someone that they were acquainted with, had four of her own children. She was versed and a customer and a fan of ours, understands the four types. She’s a type four, and she through one of the most loving gifts she could offer, she offered to carry and bring to life these two girls successfully, and they were born July 1st. Kara even assessed them correctly. She had them spot on based on the movement that she could discern.
Joe Rawlinson: These four types that you may have in your family require that we adapt kind of as parents to each of our children’s unique natures and needs. You mentioned some of the labels that these children get because they may be acting contrary to what we think they should be doing. What are some of the other signs that these parents can see that we are not honoring our particular child’s nature?
Carol Tuttle: Well, what I teach in The Child Whisperer, that your child’s stressful state is a message for you. Especially it seems fairly typical that there could be … Like in your setup, your type one daughter, your fun-loving child, could have been the problem child in a sense because what was natural for you and your wife and what that sort of just aligned with your other children to be effective, you could have this one child that’s not responding in the same manner. So she could be in stress mode and difficult, less cooperative, having problems in school, issues showing up. Now you’re going to discipline to correct that, try to change her behavior. What I teach in The Child Whisperer, no, those are all messages that your parenting approach is imbuing … You’re child’s in a stressful state most likely because of your parenting approach and your misunderstanding of what supports them and motivates them and engages them to be cooperative because, honestly, having now worked in the field of personal growth and personal development and my vast understanding of psychology over 25 years in this career of helping adults, everything would trace back to their childhood and these original woundings that occurred that they’d never cleaned up and they’d never changed their perception of themselves, so it was really set up in their child.
In every case, I’ve never met an adult or a child that did not want to please their parents. I’ve worked decades now with adults that have compromised themselves in an effort to please the parents that turns into codependent traits in their adult relationships with this effort I have to please others to be validated. You just have to understand a child [inaudible 20:17] unless they’ve developed for long enough in their later grade school and early teens and teen years, yes, they now may be contrary to you because they’re kind of fed up. But I’d say at least six and under, for sure probably eight and under, children do not have ill will. You have to first get that. My child’s not trying to ruin my life. They’re not trying to make life difficult for me. They’re stressed. What’s causing the stress? It’s most likely not particularly what they’re play … It maybe isn’t they won’t take a nap, they’re not going to bed, they won’t do their chores. Those are all just mediums to show you they’re stressed. I help a parent trace it back, just got a couple steps back to what are you doing that’s setting them up to not bring their best for you?
Disciplining is only going to compound the problem. Discipline has its … You learn how to discipline favorably according to what type your child is so it’s effective now when that need arises, but consistently parents report in applying this model the need for discipline is removed in the majority of their day-to-day experience. Children respond very fast to this approach. They’re pretty clean human beings still, so they respond very favorably to your … Parents might thing what? I have to learn to parent my children four different ways? But you’ll find how innately intuitive this is, that it actually is fun. It allows you to create a very special bond with each child. I recently did a blog post. I have my own thechildwhisperer.com and the blog and the podcast. It’s a call-in show where basically I’m helping parents troubleshoot, it’s mostly moms, the issues they’re facing in my child whisperer application. I recently did a blog post on are you managing a family or raising a child? We easily fall into just managing the family, managing the household, managing the activities, and what gets lost in that is that special, unique relationship with your child. This allows that. This just sets you up to create a very deep and loving bond that lasts a lifetime with your child.
Joe Rawlinson: Yeah, that’s a wonderful thing to foster as a parent. That should be our primary responsibility there.
Carol Tuttle: Well, that’s just a side effect of this. That’s the thing because when you implement this methodology, that’s just one of the really … It happens naturally, which it should. It should be a natural occurrence rather than something you have to try and effort it. It just is the byproduct of truly understanding who your child is.
Joe Rawlinson: Like you said, it makes it easier when you understand their nature and you understand how to interact with them.
Carol Tuttle: Yeah.
Joe Rawlinson: It makes parenting easier, and discipline becomes less of an issue because you’re able to positively encourage them in the way that best meets their nature. That’s been our experience, too, in our home, particularly with our fun-loving child which, as you said, could have been the problem child has kind of turned that around to be truly fun and loving and full of excitement, so that’s been great.
Carol Tuttle: Yeah. Then you can see what a gift she is to your family to bring in a certain quality of expression and she affects the environment in a way that everyone benefits then. Rather than being an irritant, now she brings her gift.
Joe Rawlinson: As you have observed your own twin grandbabies and you’ve also worked with twins over the years in your professional career, what are some of the unique things that you have observed with regards to the nature of twins?
Carol Tuttle: Well, I’d love for you to respond to this. Did you start to notice at some point that even though they were twins they were very unique in who they were?
Joe Rawlinson: Yes.
Carol Tuttle: That they weren’t the same. Like, they’re different. I’ve never to date, and I’ve met a lot of identical twins in the years. In fact, on thechildwhisperer.com site, I had a set of help parents. We call them the book resources, that I filmed 26 different videos that are me interviewing parents and their children. What you learn from those is how the parents correctly assess their children, or if they were kind of stumped I’m helping facilitate that assessment and we captured it, so you start to see these patterns. When you watch 26 videos, you start to see this. I wanted to take what you were learning through a cognitive understanding to now visually apply it, and that’s why I created the video series, but I have one video that features two little twin boys that at the time I filmed these a couple years ago they are six years old. One was a type one, and one was a type four, and they were just classic in their expression.
The type one little boy was just bright-eyed and cute and kind of … he’d make you laugh, and he had clever things to say. The type four brother was sitting there rolling his eyes saying how silly. My brother is just, uh. You know, it was so classic that the more serious type four twin, he had his opinion about his more fun-loving brother, and this is going to help them now have a very close relationship as they understand they’re almost polar opposites in how they approach life, but I said to this little boy. He might have been seven or eight. He was young, but I said, “Hey, your brother’s going to be a real advantage to you in high school.” He’s the one that just has no problem connecting with everybody. You’re going to love this as you grow. Twins, identical twins, I’ve never seen any set of twins that have been the same type, and your girls are different.
Joe Rawlinson: Yes.
Carol Tuttle: As you now have identified, and my granddaughters are a type two and a type four, and they’re very expressive in this even in their nonverbal phase of life, in their sleep habits, the way they demand things through … Crying is their one communication interaction, and Ruby, the type four granddaughter, it’s very … They’re very black and white, all or nothing, so she cries in a big way. When her need’s met, it’s taken care of. Our type two granddaughter, Adeline, it’s making sure her environment is comfortable, and she loves to cuddle. Ruby’s not a cuddler. Adeline’s the cuddler. She just needs more time being held and having that connection. My daughter-in-law is very aware of all this, and it was interesting because their developing is going really … They were premature, as twins often are, and they’re now about four-and-a-half months. They’re thriving physically. They started sleeping through the night about a month ago, so I have seen in all of my grandchildren that every one of them, certainly, that you have your typical parents get worn out, children require a lot of time and attention, there are challenges in all of it, but all of my grandchildren are very balanced. They’re developing without issues really. They’re minor issues. They’re very minor. They’re easily addressed.
The biggest issue any of them have had is my grandson who’s a type three, through his father’s genetic tendency, he had very large tonsils. Jenny was able to identify in the last year that he was having sleep apnea, and this is a type three child that wasn’t getting rested properly, so his behavior was very erratic and over-the-top intense. That’s the thing. In a world of a type three child, if you make sure their physical needs are met, sleep, proper diet, and enough outlets for their activity, these kids stay balanced. But if their physical needs are out of balance, they’re out of balance and they’re a lot to handle. They present a lot of tension. The decision was to surgically remove his tonsils, and he’s … I said there is a sweet little boy on the other side of those tonsils because it’s been very challenging for them, and this has been so insightful for them to understand that about him. Now he has the advantage, which we’re really grateful for because he’s a great little boy.
Joe Rawlinson: That’s wonderful. A lot of my listeners will ask when they’re expecting twins, their family wants to help, their parents want to help, the in-laws want to help, so from your perspective as a grandparent now of twins, what’s the best way that grandparents can support new parents of twins?
Carol Tuttle: In our situation, there are some things we’ve had to consider, that there was quite an effort to have these girls come into their family, years of a lot of pain and heartache and a lot of celebration around their birth. They’re very close to their … I’ve yet to babysit my granddaughters, and I could be offended by that. They’re their first children, too. Now, in your case, you had other children. You were kind of in … So where are the children coming … What’s the stage of the family at their entry to the family? If they’re the third/fourth birth of the family, they’re not the first children, those are different factors because first children as twins, in our case, my son and daughter-in-law, they’re very … I’ve let them know I’d love to come and babysit. They’ve not taken us up on that offer.
I take no personal offense to that at all. I just know they feel the need to be very … My daughter-in-law’s mom, well, she’s a mother of twins. She’s going to have a little more confidence in her own mother having raised twin daughters than me. I understand all that, so what I’ve learned as a grandparent at large and even in supporting your children-in-law is you’ve got to take your sense of needing validation from how they choose to invite you in. If you take it personally, you make it messy for them. You just have to remove that and just say I’m a good person, I’m a great grandma, and they know I’m there for them. I’ve been able to help in other ways. I’ve done a lot of shopping for … picking up. There’s a lot of great things you can get at Trader Joe’s that are easy to prepare meals. I’ve paid for them. I’m like, how can I help in a way that fits what their preferences are right now? And I respect those preferences.
I’m more of a grandmother, too, my children kind of know this. I’m not the woman that’s walking around in a social environment looking for babies to hold. That’s not my orientation, but when they start to become more of the interactive age, they know I’m the grandma that’s going to take their kids to Disneyland because I’m a type three, so I’m the very adventurous, let’s go do things grandma. They kind of have the correct perception of my grandmother style. In fact, my son’s father, my husband, John, he’s a type two. He’s done more babysitting than me because he has more of the nature to just be in that setting than I do, so it’s interesting that we don’t follow traditional roles. We very much follow more our strengths and our gifts, and my husband has spent more time alone with those twin daughters than I have because he has more capacity to just kind of do it at this phase. That doesn’t make me a crummy grandma. It just means that’s just kind of how I meet life and there’s my strengths that they know are what they can engage me in. They don’t judge me falsely, either, to say why isn’t my mom wanting to just hang out here and spend all this time with the babies because basically I run a business. I’m a professional woman on top of that. I have a lot going on.
Joe Rawlinson: Yeah, that’s a great perspective, so applying some of these same concepts to recognizing the grandparents’ nature and what they would be most successful doing and how they would be helping.
Carol Tuttle: You have the right, in my opinion, to first know how to parent twins, and you don’t need all these people giving you feedback. I’ve never been the parent that’s like … I’m there if they want support. Even my daughters, I tend … You tend to fall, too, it’s interesting that my daughter-in-law is going to go to her mother more than me. That’s reasonable. I give more feedback to my own daughters and their parenting experiences they invite me to than they seek out from their mothers-in-law, and that’s fine. I think there is some preferences there just because of the bonds that exist. One thing I do, too, it’s interesting, as a grandmother, I never use the phrase, “Give me a hug. I need a hug from you.” I’ve never felt that was honoring, so my phrase is, “Can I give you a hug? I’d like to give you a hug.” My type three granddaughter, all I have to say is, “Don’t hug me. Do not. You don’t even think about it,” and she’s all over me.
Joe Rawlinson: Nice.
Carol Tuttle: She’s like, oh yeah? It’s so funny. She’s three-and-a-half. I know she’s going to figure it out. Some day, I guarantee she’s going to go, “Whatever. I know what you’re doing grandma.”
Joe Rawlinson: Wonderful. Well, Carol, it’s been a great discussion with you today. If listeners want to connect with you, what’s the best way to reach out?
Carol Tuttle: The resources are at thechildwhisperer.com. Actually, the book is sold on Amazon. There’s a link there. There’s the podcast I do weekly. There’s lots of archives with very specific issues that I’m helping, and my approach is always through this model, so you get to learn the application of it in different scenarios, and the podcast is rich with that once you’ve learned through the book the whole concept. It’s a 420-page book, so I’m grateful. It has a lot of just five-star stellar reviews on Amazon. We really wanted to honor the book on its launch, that it is a parenting best-seller.
Joe Rawlinson: Well, thank you. Thank you again, Carol. We’ll link up in the show notes the links to all those resources that you mentioned for listeners to find.
Carol Tuttle: Thank you.
Joe Rawlinson: All right. Well, I hope you enjoyed that interview with Carol. I know I did. Now, I invite you to go and do some homework, to think about some of those individual energy types that your children may have, try to identify what they may be, and then what you can change about your interactions with them in your parenting to best meet their individual needs and temperaments. Then you can go about seeing how changing your parenting will have an effect on how your children behave differently.
Before you go, don’t forget that you can get a free audio book version of my Dad’s Guide to Twins book by visiting freetwinbook.com.
I look forward to seeing you on the next podcast where we will be talking with a fellow father of twins Andy Shaw who shares his amazing experience of the delivery of their twins and some harrowing stories of what happened with their twins after they were born. We’ll see you next time on the podcast.
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